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Woutsie · Dec 15, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23

I currently have a lvl20 W/E, still have Yak's Bend armor and I now realize this character is just not good enough... I have no descent Warrior weapon, I am using a staff...

W/E is also not so good for farming, isn't it?

Now I started a Mo/Me (lvl4 now) because I really like those 2 professions, but my question is, is this a good character to farm with, later in the game against lvl20-24's?

Swampgirl Inez · Dec 15, 2005, 09:33 PM // 21:33

I play a W/E and I've never had a problem with it. I admit I don't solo farm, but I know it is very feasible. There was a thread in the Builds Discussion forum about a W/E farmer just the other day.

On a side note, why in the world are you using low-level armor and a staff for a warrior primary?

Hells Vengeance · Dec 15, 2005, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Monks are pretty good farmers. They used to be the most popular build to solo with until they made AoE (Area of Effect) ineffective against ceatures. They are still good to farm solo if you have the right build but I'm sure that you will have to change to a Mo/W. If you do decide to change your second proffession, don't delete it. Wait till you have gotten to the desert and do the Warrior secondary quest found at Destiny's Gorge.

rugal nuker · Dec 16, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

w/ele is not no good,u don like the playing style of it....if u like farming choose w/mo,just change the secondary class in the dessert,do a quest name called ''monk's path'',it is either in the 3 places,hero's audience,destiny's gorge or seeker's passage,do the quest to change ur secondary class,no need to change ur char. btw,mo/mes cant farm shit,they are only healers.

Rico Carridan · Dec 16, 2005, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by Woutsie

I currently have a lvl20 W/E, still have Yak's Bend armor and I now realize this character is just not good enough... I have no descent Warrior weapon, I am using a staff...

W/E is also not so good for farming, isn't it?

Now I started a Mo/Me (lvl4 now) because I really like those 2 professions, but my question is, is this a good character to farm with, later in the game against lvl20-24's?

The reason why your warrior isn't working is because your equipment is ineffective for what you should be doing as a warrior. You shouldn't use a staff except maybe in very specific builds, and you should probably be able to get better armor by this point. Let's see. If finding armor is a problem, and you don't have much money, try looking around the Maguuma Jungle or Crystal Desert areas, or if you've got money, Draknor's forge; the collectors there can get you better armor in exchange for some random collector materials that you should be able to find (or at worst, buy--don't pay more than 100 for any material) pretty easily. As far as weapons go... don't use a staff as a warrior. Please. You should be able to use the collectors (or weapon crafters--try Lion's Arch area, or Henge of Denvari) weapons from the same areas that should be pretty respectible. Or just go to Lion's Arch or Ascalon city, and say you want to buy a max damage sword/axe/hammer. You should be able to get something reasonable for 1k or less. I get the feeling you're trying to use your elementalist magic to fight. Don't. You don't have enough energy to make it work. Use your sword/axe/hammer as your primary attack, and use your magic for support or to get out of trouble.

Rico

linkid · Dec 16, 2005, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by rugal nuker

w/ele is not no good,u don like the playing style of it....if u like farming choose w/mo,just change the secondary class in the dessert,do a quest name called ''monk's path'',it is either in the 3 places,hero's audience,destiny's gorge or seeker's passage,do the quest to change ur secondary class,no need to change ur char. btw,mo/mes cant farm shit,they are only healers.

W/E can also farm most places that W/Mo can (griffons, hydras yes W/E can farm them).
Mo/Me, like any other Mo/X, can farm really well. Really, with arcane echo + Shield of Judgement (and mantra of resolve) I think they are one of the best Griffon/Minotaur (and rockshots) farmers. Also they can solo UW.

Woutsie · Dec 16, 2005, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by Swampgirl Inez

I play a W/E and I've never had a problem with it. I admit I don't solo farm, but I know it is very feasible. There was a thread in the Builds Discussion forum about a W/E farmer just the other day.

On a side note, why in the world are you using low-level armor and a staff for a warrior primary?

I am saving gold to buy 15k armor.
And I don't have a good warrior weapon.

quickmonty · Dec 16, 2005, 11:51 AM // 11:51

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Originally Posted by Woutsie

I am saving gold to buy 15k armor.
And I don't have a good warrior weapon.

Weapons drop on a regular basis when you are just doing missions. You should be able to find better ones as you make your way through the game. Or ask a friend or guild mate if they have any decent weapons to give.

(Just found a nice max damage axe with decent mods for a friend last night)

Chuba · Dec 16, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Woutsie

I am saving gold to buy 15k armor.

Unless you want the 15k armor for their looks, you could just settle for the 1,5k Droknar versions. They have the same stats but the expensive ones just look a bit better.

Doctor Death · Dec 16, 2005, 12:15 PM // 12:15

I dont know why ppl are saying that you cant farm with a Mo/Me because you certainly can. I often switch my monks Secondary to mesmer to farm. The most simple mo/me farming build has been posted many times on this forum, but basically it uses a 55hp monk base for almost invulnerability and for damage use Sheild of Judgment and Archane Echo to copy it so that you can keep it going almost permanently. In also has the flexibility of being able to use skills like Mantra of Resolve so that in certain difficult areas you can be protected from interrupts.

Summary:-
Mo/Me can farm:
UW (very slow mind you)
Griffons
Trolls
Hydra
Ice imps

Woutsie · Dec 16, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02

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Originally Posted by Chuba

Unless you want the 15k armor for their looks, you could just settle for the 1,5k Droknar versions. They have the same stats but the expensive ones just look a bit better.

Okay, i'll go for the 1,5k armor!

But which one should i get?
Platemail looks nice, but has no extra stats except for the +10 armor
Knights looks also nice, and has on 3 items recudes damage from attack. Does this helps something?
Gladiator has a bit more energy, I could use some energy btw, but its not much...

Swampgirl Inez · Dec 16, 2005, 02:48 PM // 14:48

For a W/E, I definitely recommend Gladiator's for the energy bonus. You might also want to get an Ascalon or Knight's helm or boots for the damage reduction. As far as not having tons of money, you can also get some collector armor and weapons. Do a search here or go to www.guildwiki.org to find a list of what's available.

DeanBB · Dec 16, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50

Knights boots for the global damage absorption.
Helm that matches your weapon/tactics/strength bonus.
Gladiators everywhere else.
Stonefist Gauntlets if a hammer user.

You can also get the basic 80 armor in the desert from the collectors, and can use those for the desired helm(s).

Woutsie · Dec 16, 2005, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Swampgirl Inez

For a W/E, I definitely recommend Gladiator's for the energy bonus. You might also want to get an Ascalon or Knight's helm or boots for the damage reduction. As far as not having tons of money, you can also get some collector armor and weapons. Do a search here or go to www.guildwiki.org to find a list of what's available.

I decided: Im going for the Knights armor. I don't think that extra energy will help, its only +5+ or so...

The Herbalizer · Dec 16, 2005, 08:04 PM // 20:04

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I decided: Im going for the Knights armor. I don't think that extra energy will help, its only +5+ or so...

You should have searched for more info. As knights is useless as one piece will reduce dmg the same as a full set. The energy and +20 physical from gladiators makes it by far the most useful set when combined with a knight/ascalon helm/boots/gloves.

Rico Carridan · Dec 16, 2005, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Woutsie

I am saving gold to buy 15k armor.
And I don't have a good warrior weapon.

Good warrior weapons are easy to find, if you know where to look. For a sword user, for 5k and a couple crafting materials, you can get a longsword that is as good as any sword you will ever be able to find--talk to the weapon crafter at Draknor's forge. If you don't feel like paying, you can get a sword that's almost as good at the collector right outside Dunes of Despair for what amounts to ~500 gold in collector materials. For axes, there's a guy east of Dunes of Despair in the ruined city who will provide great axes for about the same price, and there's a guy near one of the teleporters to Dunes that offers great hammers.

http://guildwiki.org/wiki/General_co...stal_Desert%29

Go there for more specifics. Don't worry about buying 15k armor. You will never accumulate enough money to buy it just playing the game through normally, you need to spend a lot of time fighting monsters (farming) or get extremely lucky with your drops to be able to get it early. And as was mentioned, it isn't any better than Draknor's armor.

The damage reduction bonus on knight/ascalon armor is not cumulative. The reduction bonus from wearing the torso, boots, and gloves all at once is the same as just wearing the boots. Hence, it is generally considered poor practice to buy more than one piece of knights/ascalon armor (unless, I suppose you were going purely for appearance).

Rico

Dec 15, 2005, 09:23 PM // 21:23	#1
Woutsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Belgium	W/E and Mo/Me I currently have a lvl20 W/E, still have Yak's Bend armor and I now realize this character is just not good enough... I have no descent Warrior weapon, I am using a staff... W/E is also not so good for farming, isn't it? Now I started a Mo/Me (lvl4 now) because I really like those 2 professions, but my question is, is this a good character to farm with, later in the game against lvl20-24's?

Dec 16, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38	#4
rugal nuker Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: E/Mo	w/ele is not no good,u don like the playing style of it....if u like farming choose w/mo,just change the secondary class in the dessert,do a quest name called ''monk's path'',it is either in the 3 places,hero's audience,destiny's gorge or seeker's passage,do the quest to change ur secondary class,no need to change ur char. btw,mo/mes cant farm shit,they are only healers. Last edited by rugal nuker; Dec 16, 2005 at 01:42 AM // 01:42..

Dec 16, 2005, 02:48 PM // 14:48	#12
Swampgirl Inez "I love reading trash!" Join Date: May 2005 Location: Home Again	For a W/E, I definitely recommend Gladiator's for the energy bonus. You might also want to get an Ascalon or Knight's helm or boots for the damage reduction. As far as not having tons of money, you can also get some collector armor and weapons. Do a search here or go to www.guildwiki.org to find a list of what's available. Last edited by Swampgirl Inez; Dec 16, 2005 at 02:52 PM // 14:52..

Dec 15, 2005, 09:33 PM // 21:33	#2
Swampgirl Inez "I love reading trash!" Join Date: May 2005 Location: Home Again	I play a W/E and I've never had a problem with it. I admit I don't solo farm, but I know it is very feasible. There was a thread in the Builds Discussion forum about a W/E farmer just the other day. On a side note, why in the world are you using low-level armor and a staff for a warrior primary?

Dec 15, 2005, 11:35 PM // 23:35	#3
Hells Vengeance Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Eight Deadly Sins Profession: W/Mo	Monks are pretty good farmers. They used to be the most popular build to solo with until they made AoE (Area of Effect) ineffective against ceatures. They are still good to farm solo if you have the right build but I'm sure that you will have to change to a Mo/W. If you do decide to change your second proffession, don't delete it. Wait till you have gotten to the desert and do the Warrior secondary quest found at Destiny's Gorge.

Dec 16, 2005, 12:15 PM // 12:15	#10
Doctor Death Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester, UK Guild: Currently Guildless Profession: W/N	I dont know why ppl are saying that you cant farm with a Mo/Me because you certainly can. I often switch my monks Secondary to mesmer to farm. The most simple mo/me farming build has been posted many times on this forum, but basically it uses a 55hp monk base for almost invulnerability and for damage use Sheild of Judgment and Archane Echo to copy it so that you can keep it going almost permanently. In also has the flexibility of being able to use skills like Mantra of Resolve so that in certain difficult areas you can be protected from interrupts. Summary:- Mo/Me can farm: UW (very slow mind you) Griffons Trolls Hydra Ice imps

Dec 16, 2005, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#13
DeanBB Forge Runner Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Arizona Guild: Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com	Knights boots for the global damage absorption. Helm that matches your weapon/tactics/strength bonus. Gladiators everywhere else. Stonefist Gauntlets if a hammer user. You can also get the basic 80 armor in the desert from the collectors, and can use those for the desired helm(s).